Bélgica Dagua, "My Experience When I Drank Wanduk."

[Have you drunk wanduk?] Yes! I have drunk it, only once —only once— m m! When I was sick. [You too?] I have drunk it about four times —four times, really?— m m! [So, I heard something about it, yes. After drinking it, you get a bit dizzy, that happens. But then the wanduk man or the wanduk woman comes to take you.] [Now I ask you. Inside the plant, is there the wanduk woman? Is there the wanduk chief?] [So, when you drink wanduk, does her husband caterpillar still look like a person? Can that caterpillar also take you or how is it?] When you drink wanduk, this happens. I will tell you from the beginning. I drank wanduk, and I will talk because I have drunk wanduk. The Wanduk is drunk on an empty stomach, fasting, at six in the morning. You have to bring it, have it ready, and scrape it onto the leaf. Scraping from each side of the stem, scrape from the tip. You bring another one and scrape it to make a pile. When the pile is made, you collect it. In a clay cup, you crush it with your hand like this —"chaw". The other pile you also crush —"chaw". And now you will see how the clay cup fills with foam. You take that —"tak"— and say: “Because I am sick, I drink this. I have this pain, that’s why I’m drinking it. Thinking of you, I’m drinking it. Heal me! I have heard of you.” Saying that —"tas"— you drink it. Drinking, once you have drunk it, after a while you start to look around and the leaves (plants) here start moving. They have mouths and can talk. The plants start to greet you. Everything starts to change —"win"— all the plants start to talk. That’s when something makes you hear —"lliw" "lliw"—. At the same time, the whole world turns yellow. Yellow, yellow everywhere. All the leaves look green —"win"— like they have been colored. At the same time, where the sun rises, from there it comes —"dziwk"— up to here (position of the sun at 12 pm) and you will feel as if the sun burns you hard. Then, there —"tank"— it explodes at 12 noon. That’s when you lose your consciousness of this world. Then, then, that’s when our whole body starts shaking —"di di di di di..."— so. We lose our consciousness. That’s when the wanduk amu (chief/owner) arrives, at the same time the explosion is happening. “You will observe well, this is the person who did you harm. Now if you want to heal, they are coming to operate on you,” they will tell you. Then, right there they come with the stretcher, just like in this world doctors treat you in the hospital. They receive you like that. Yes, sometimes... any part that hurts you, that’s what they will operate on. They see what they are going to operate on. They are doctors —just as they look in this world, but they are dressed all in green. They look all green —"win"— like that. [Is that how they operated on you...?] Look at me, from here... when I was dying, I drank that. They operated on me up to here. This too, this side, from here, this up to here. Yes, I couldn’t walk with these two legs, and they operated on that. Doing like this —"tas tas tas... pun"—. Then look here at what allows me to lift my leg. They pulled my leg there —"dzir"— that’s how the leg used to remain. So they operated on me —"tias tias tias..."— cut —"tias"— doing like this —"dzir, dzir"— they pulled and cut. After they operated on me —"tias"— they cut the root —"tiar"— also the other root —"tiar"— they pulled me from there. So after I started to walk, I got cured. Look, that’s how the visions are when you drink wanduk. M m!. [So that, that caterpillar, it doesn’t come as a person?] Yes, people are coming. [It’s not a worm, it’s a person?] No, no it’s not a worm, it’s a person. M m!. [So, person ... that comes as a person?] Yes! People come. [Like really white?] Yes, yes. Then like when you want to get ahead, you will see: “This will happen like this. This will happen like this. This here will happen like that.” Now they will make you see visions like television advertisements. “You will observe well those scenes” and —"tas"— they will disappear. Again it lets you observe a vision —"tas"— after that vision will disappear. It will let you see another, another, another, another vision... Then you have to remember how to get to that place. Arriving, arriving, arriving. M m! Now I, what I observe, that they will come to me. That’s why I say, if what I observed comes true. A a! We won’t get to that moment now, but later, later, later, much later you will see it. Not at that moment —"win"— that time will not come. M m! Narradora: Bélgica Dagua Titulo:Punpun Anga Kuru Story URL: https://www.iyarina.org/videos/punpun-anga-kuru-story Kichwa: "Kayta ñukanchi punpun anga kuru nigaranchi. Chi punpun anga ""pu pu pu ..."" nishkaybi. Chi, mashti warmiga ñawi rikuagashkay. Kasna ruya sapimanda pangawan tapu... Chiga kariga... pay uyarikpi... ...kayga soltera agashkay kay kuruga. Chiga, chi raygu chi, mashti, pun pun anga kuru nigaganaw... rikuagashkay mana... mashti chi runataga rikunata munasha payga mitik...Chiga, chi chasna taparik. Chiga, chasna mashkagashkay chasna uyarikpi... Ña pay runa ashkaybiga. Chiga, ña payga, payga ""uu"" nishacha maskagashkay, chiga maskakpis mana tuparik ashkaybi. Chiga payga ña mitikusha tiagashkay Chasa asha chi, kunanbas chi mana rikuwanawnchu nisha mitikusha tiagan niganawn kay kurutaga. Pun pun anga kuru nikmaganawn ñukanchita. [Paywa runa ashkay] Pay runa ashkay. Chiga kunanbas ña chasa mitikusha tiagawn payga. [Pitay paywa kari, pita...?] Mana kari yanga munasha nisha payga maskakpiga mitikusha payga tiagagashkay ""aau"" [Y karirandi imara tukuka?] Kuti ña payga punpun anga tukushkay ña kuti. Chiga pay tian ""pun pun"" chiga pay ""pun pun..."" maskawn ashkay. Chiga pay taparisha tiawashkay chi panga ukuybi. Chayminda tupanga, kunanbas llasallata mana tupaypak tiagawn pillurisha chi ukuwamanda rikunmi pero. [Tuta purik an?] ¡Mana! punzha shinata mitikusha tiagan payga. Chasna kunanbas tiak tukushka pay [Y chi huras chi angas runa ak] Runa ashatami. Payga runa ashata mashkawshkay chi warmita. Chiga chi warmiga ruya sapiy ga payga pangawa mitikusha tiagagashka. [Y kunanga chi punpun anga kay kuruga maskan?] kaytaga mikusha nisha maska akpita kasa pillurisha tiagawnya ""m m!"" [Kunagamas charak] Kunangamas mikukgawnya, payta mikukgawn tupashaga. Chi rayguta payga mitikusha tiagawn kasa." Español: "A este gusano nosotros le decimos “punpun anga kuru”. Ese punpun anga dice ""pu pu pu ..."". Ese, este… cuando veía la cara de la mujer. Por la raíz del árbol se tapaba con hojas …Entonces ese hombre…Ella hacía sonar… Este gusano era soltera (cuando era persona). Entonces, por eso, le dicen “pun pun anga kuru”… vieron que no… Este, este hombre quería ver a la mujer y ella pasaba escondiéndose… Entonces, ella se tapaba con las hojas. Entonces él la pasaba buscandola mientras sonaba así ( el sonido pun pun pun ) Ya, cuando él era una persona, ya él, él buscaba diciendo “uu”, entonces aunque la buscara no la encontró. Ella sabía pasar escondida Por eso, este gusano hasta ahora pasa escondido para que no lo vean. Nos dijeron que se llama “Punpun anga kuru” . [Cuando ella era una persona…] Cuando ella era una persona. Entonces hasta ahora pasa escondiéndose así. [quien es su esposo, quien...?] No, ella pasaba escondida porque el hombre la quería y la estaba buscando “aau” [Y qué le pasó al hombre?] Él ya se convirtió en “punpun anga” (un especie de ave). Entonces él pasa “u u u” , entonces él “pun pun ” la pasa buscando. Entonces ella se pasa escondiendo dentro de esas hojas. Qué le va a encontrar, ahora así mismo no se la puede encontrar porque pasa envuelta, pero desde ahí adentro está viendo. [sale en la noche?]no! En el día ella se pasa escondiendo. Así pasa hasta ahora. [Y en ese tiempo ese “anga” era una persona] Era una persona. Él porque era una persona pasaba buscando a esa mujer. Entonces esa mujer pasaba escondiendo las hojas en las raíces de un árbol. [Y hasta ahora ese “pun pun anga” pasa buscando a este gusano?] Él pasa buscando para comerla, por eso este gusano pasa envuelto. ""m m!"" [Aún hasta ahora] hasta ahora lo come, si la encuentra se la va a comer. Por eso ella pasa escondiéndose así." Ingles: We call this worm “punpun anga kuru.” That punpun anga says “pu pu pu…” —that one, this one— when it saw the woman’s face. By the roots of the tree, it covered itself with leaves… Then that man… she made the sound… This worm was single (when it was a person). That’s why they call it “punpun anga kuru” —they saw that it didn’t… That man wanted to see the woman, but she kept hiding. So she covered herself with leaves. He went around looking for her while making that “pun pun pun” sound. Back when he was still a person, he would search saying “uu”, but even though he looked for her, he never found her. She always knew how to hide. That’s why this worm still hides so no one can see it. They told us its name is “Punpun anga kuru.” [When she was a person…] When she was a person, even then she kept hiding that way. [Who is her husband, who...?] No, she hid because the man wanted her and was looking for her saying “aau.” [And what happened to the man?] He turned into “punpun anga” (a kind of bird). So he goes “u u u” and “pun pun”, still searching for her. And she keeps hiding inside those leaves. How could he ever find her? Even now he can’t, because she stays wrapped up, but from inside she’s watching. [Does she come out at night?] No! During the day she keeps hiding. That’s how she lives even now. [And back then, that “anga” was a person?] Yes, he was a person. When he was human, he kept searching for that woman. And she hid among the roots of a tree, covering herself with leaves. [And even now that “pun pun anga” keeps looking for this worm?] He keeps searching to eat her; that’s why this worm stays wrapped up. “m m!” [Even now?] Even now he eats her if he finds her. That’s why she still keeps hiding that way.