Bélgica Dagua, "Munditi amu: An encounter with the master of the curassow."

From interviews with Tod D. Swanson

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Tod D. Swanson, Bélgica Dagua, "Munditi amu: An encounter with the master of the curassow" Youtube video. 6:39. December 31, 2018. https://youtu.be/wBBFZTKr-8I

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English Translation

My uncle's son went to the barracks and they took him. They knew how to send the jungle to the detachment. Like they wanted to eat meat and see what they had gone to the mountain. The monkeys howled a lot and that's why my uncle's son said: We're going to kill, I'm going to hunt down very well, say to a relative. They went to the mountain and reached a part where the wind had knocked down [trees]. There were many ungurawa trees, the wind had brought down large trees. On the mountain where the trees fell, many monkeys howled. tindindirin tindindirin...He heard a lot of monkeys howl, it was quite a few. Listening to that they went and even the earth trembled by howls. And when he said that the earth was shaking, he was shaking when he went there. They were watching carefully without moving too much, which they came to howled up and down the ground. It wasn't so dark a little day was, they saw a tall man. That tall man was standing like that to what the monkeys howled, he owned the monkeys. Without seeing below he was like that as they sang again. In that space he walked singing like that, he didn't notice. Not at all, he saw down, only saw upwards as he sang with his hand like this and had a cap. He was wearing a black cap this round and big, he was a tall man. He was wearing a nice black shirt, so did he sing. When he sang, he was shaking and my friend watching said he's no monkey. "Look at that person who walks in, look he owns the monkey spirit." If he realizes our presence, he's going to kill us, that's what they said. Behind where the wind tumbo trees were shiwa trees and as it was a sunny day they were dry. They set fire to the dried leaves of the shiwa palm. The shiwa tree caught a lot of light, set on fire, and ran. They ran to the other mountain, passed another mountain, and listened to the owner of the monkeys. Even though there was a lot of fire he didn't realize it, even though it was catching fire here. - How did he sing? Looking up. He sang and so the monkeys above sang very loudly. The real monkeys also sang, still heard from the other mountain. And there they sang harder, and they [the military] said now they did notice the owner of the monkeys. They ran, ran to the house and arrived soon. It dawned and they stopped singing, we didn't catch any monkeys saying. We found the owner of the monkeys, the spirit owner of the monkeys we found. That's where he talked to me and said he was a tall man dressed in black clothes. He had a big round cap when he sang up. - He took care of his children. He took care of his children For seeing his children he sang, to gather them, and to see them. He wanted to see and know why they were disappearing, that's why he gathered them. - Was he very sad? According to him when he got sad he saw upwards as he sang and that's why he shouldn't know. Of the people who came and that's why he didn't see it. - Why are you sad? Because he had kids just like you get sad for your kids, just like that. That's why he got sad and looking up he was saying because of so much silence. When he sang looking up there his children came, watching him sing. He who went and saw that went to bed, and when he slept Why didn't I notice before, if I hadn't eaten you two? Just because I didn't realize you guys are alive if you were already dead. They wouldn't have lived, he said, from there. That's why when they sang monkeys in the mountains you don't want to go he said because he saw that in the dream. Because that's how I saw a tall, human man, that's how he told me. Similarly, he had a big round cap, he was black. Black clothes were worn by the owner of the monkeys.

Kichwa Translation

Ñuka achiwa churi payga ña cushcu rayku payta apishkauna, chi apijpi. Paygunata sachama kachaj anaun kasna destacamentoma, chi mana tiashka. Payguna runa akguna aychata mikingawa nijpi, chi tiakpi payguna kasna shu urkuybi shi. Mana kaylla cantaj ashka munditi chiga payga ñuka achiwa churiga nishka. Wanchiyrishun ñuka gustu wanchij mani nishka chiga ari nisha shuk pay aylluwan tupanakunkuna rishkauna. Risha paktaushkauna chaybi shi shu kasna urku ashkaybiga wayra urmashka ashka. Ña imakuynta shiwallasha chashka chi urkuybiga, chi wayra urmashka pakllatashi urmashka atun ruya. Chi urmashkay uyajpiga chi urkuybiga mana kayllachu cantaushka munditi. Uyajpiga, cantashaga mana shikallacha uyariushkauna ashka shi cantaushkauna kasna away Chiga uyasha payguna rishkauna uyajpiga allpayshi chukchuringata cantanaun. Shina chiga chasna nishkawan kay allpaga zhirmarishka, chi pay zhirmarishka chasnama ripi. Payguna tsan rikusha, rikusha rishkauna chiga rikujpi pakptashkay rikujpi awamas cantashka waykuys cantan. Ima shinatan chiga killa mana payakta ansa tuta ashka ña kasna punzhalla shashka, chiga awa runa chashka. Chi awa runaga payga cantashka kasnashi apirishka chi amu munditi amu, chi supayga kasna rikusha. Ña allpama mana rikushka payga kasna chi rishka awama cantashka kuticha vulltashka kasna. Chi pakllaubiga ña kasnacha purishka kasna awamalla rikusha cantasha, mana pay riparariusha kay. Kay allpama ajta ña imatas, awamalla rikusha cantaushka kasna makita gurayuj ashka. Kasna yana gurata churarishka kasna redondo atun kay tupu chasna awa runa asha kay camisaga. Shinki shina ashka churarishka sumak, chasnallata cantaushka, nishka chi cantashkawan Ima kuynta zhirmarishka chiga rikusha ñuka achiwa churi nishka, mana nishka, mana munditi chan. Rikuy chi puriy runa man, runa chan riki kay kikin payba munditi payba amu mashka nin. Ñukanchita pay musiasha wanchiy tukunga raunchi nishka, pay chasna nisha rimasha. Kay chi ruya urmashka washata tiashka ashka shiwa chi indi punzha asha chakishka ashka chi shiwaga. Chi shiwa payba willma ninchi ñukanchi, payba punzhu apichishka tsinzhakawan shamusha apichishkauna. Apichisha chiga chi shiwa ruya mana kaylla sindiun, payguna chasna raj kallpaushkauna. Kallpajpiga ña payguna shu urkuta pundayasha washata chi urkumanda uyajpis chi amuga chi. Intiru nina sindiupiwas chara cantaushka shi mana ripararishka kayma sindiuta. Imasnara cantaka Payga awama Nishka chi pay amu cantashka chiga awamas mana kayllas cantaushkaunas munditi kikinbas. Alli munditiwas chi pay amus cantaushka, chi chasna urkumanda uyaupi chi kuti washa urumanda iyajpi. Ña chibi chun, chibi mas llallin sinzhita cantaugachu nisha kunanmi musiarin pay amuga nishkauna. Kallpaushkuana, kallapasha ña wasima paktashkauna ña win wasima payguna pakyangama. Punzhayapi ña sakishkauna chiga nishkauna, chiga munditita mana wanchichichu nishkauna. Payba amu kikinda tupagrinchi nishkauna, chi chas amu kikinda tupagrisha. Chima tapusha kuytawachika chasna awa runa shinki shina llachapata churarishka. Goraga manzhanayta gurayuj mara nish nishka kay intiru gorayuj, chiga awamalla rikusha cantaj ashka nishka. Paywa wawa kuyran Paywa wibata chiga rikuushka chiga pay wibata shi payga rikusha, tandachisha rikuushka. Imangawan shi kasna chingarinaun nisha, pay rikujpiga tukuriushkashi chingarisha Yapa llakirin pay. Chi yapa llakirishami pay amu iyaybi llakirisha awamalla rikuusha mana riparashka chi runa shamusha payta rikujta. Imarasha llakirin chi amu. Kuti pay wibayuj amu asha, kamba wiba chingarijpi kauna llakiringa chasna lakiriushka pay. Chi raygu pay llakirishami chi awamalla rikusha payga chiga imangawa kasna yapa shinlla tukupan nishaga. Awama chi pay cantajpiga llaruyamuushkauna pay chi wibaga, chibimi payga rikusha chasna cantaushka. Chi pay ñuka achiwas churi rij ña chishayajpicha puñushka pay, chi chishibi ña puñujpiga. Nishkashi imangawacha mana musiarani ñaupakta nish nishka kangunata mikuyma marani ishkayndita nishka. Ñuka mana musiashka mandami kausanguichi nishka, ñuka musiashkapiga ña wañunguima mara nishka. Mana kausanguichara nisha rimashka pay, chasna chimanda chi chasna. Ashka munditi shu urkuy cantaupi pay mana rina munagani nira ña chasna rikushka manda. Chasna atun runa kikinda rikurani nisha kuytara pay, ña runa maj ashka nira. Shinallata goratami charij ashka nira kay tuputa, redondo gorayuj shinki shina. Yana llachapa churarishka maj ashka nira pay amu.

Spanish Translation

El hijo de mi tio fue al cuartel y lo cogieron. A ellos les sabian mandar a la selva, al destacamento. Como ellos querían comer carne y viendo que había fueron a la montaña. Los monos aullaban mucho y por eso el hijo de mi tio dijo: Vamos a matar, yo se cazar muy bien decía a un familiar. Se fueron a la montaña y llegaron a una parte donde el viento había tumbado [árboles]. Había muchos árboles de ungurawa, el viento habia hecho caer arboles grandes. En la montaña donde los árboles cayeron, aullaban muchos monos. tindindirin tindindirin...Escuchó aullar a muchos monos, era bastantes. Escuchando eso ellos fueron y hasta la tierra temblaba por los aullidos. Y cuando dijo eso la tierra temblaba, temblaba cuando fue allá. Ellos fueron viendo con cuidado sin moverse mucho, a lo que llegaron aullaban arriba y abajo del suelo. No era tan oscuro un poco de dia era, vieron un hombre alto. Aquel hombre alto estaba parado asi a lo que aullaban los mono, era el dueño de los monos. Sin ver abajo él fue así mientras cantaban de nuevo. En ese espacio el caminaba cantando así, el no se daba cuenta. Para nada veía hacia abajo, solo veía hacia arriba mientras cantaba con la mano así y tenía una gorra. Estaba puesto una gorra negra así de redonda y grande, era un hombre alto. Estaba puesto una camisa negra linda, igualmente él cantaba. Cuando él cantaba temblaba y mi amigo viendo eso decía no es ningún mono. "Mira aquella persona que camina es, mira es el dueño espíritu de lo monos". Si él se da cuenta de nuestra presencia nos va ha matar, así se decían. Atrás de donde el viento tumbo los árboles había árboles de shiwa y como era un día soleado estaban secos. Ellos prendienron fuego a las hojas secas de la palma de shiwa. El árbol de shiwa se prendió bastante, prendieron fuego y fueron corriendo. Corrieron hasta la otra montaña, pasaron otra montaña más y escucharon al dueño de los monos. Aún cuando había mucho fuego él no se daba cuenta, aún que acá se estaba incendiando. Como cantaba. Viendo hacia arriba. Cantaba él y de igual manera los monos arriba cantaban muy fuerte. Los monos verdaderos también cantaban, aún se escuchaba desde la otra montaña. Y ahi cantaron más duro y ellos [los militares] decían ahora sí se dió cuenta el dueño de los monos. Corrieron, corrieron hacia la casa y llegaron pronto. Amaneció y dejaron de cantar, no hemos cogido ningún mono decían. Encontramos al dueño de los monos, al dueño espiritu de los monos encontramos. Ahi me conversó y decía que era un hombre alto vestido de ropa negra. Tenía una gorra redonda y grande cuando cantaba viendo hacia arriba. Cuidaba de sus hijos. Por ver a sus hijos el cantaba, para reunirlos y verlos. El quería ver y saber porque estaban desapareciendo, para eso les reunía. Se entristecía mucho. Según él al ponerse triste veía hacia arriba mientras cantaba y por eso no se deba cuenta de las personas que llegaron y por eso no lo vió, Porque se entristece. Porque él tenia hijos así como tu te pones triste por tus hijos, así mismo. Por eso él se ponía triste y viendo hacia arriba él se decía porque tanto silencio. Cuando él cantaba viendo hacia arriba ahí se acercaban sus hijos, viendo eso cantaba. Él que fue y vió eso se acostó a dormir, y cuando él durmió... Por qué no me di cuenta antes, sino les hubiera comido a ustedes dos? Solo porque no me di cuenta ustedes estan vivos sino ya estuvieran muertos. No hubieran vivido dijo él, desde ahí. Por eso cuando cantaban los monos en las montañas no se querer ir decía él, porque vio eso en el sueño. Porque así vi a una hombre alto, humano ha sido él, así me contaba. De igual manera tenía una gorra redonda y grande, era negro. Ropa negra estaba puesto el dueño de los monos.

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